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Class Size

Options for Effective Online/Hybrid/Blended
Teaching & Learning In "Larger" Classes
[In any size classes?]

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This Web page offers a starting place for civil, constructive conversations about class size in online and hybrid/blended courses, with the dual goal of implementing practical results and developing useful policies.

Web pages CANNOT be enough by themselves for these purposes;  but we hope that this one can be a valuable resource when used effectively in workshops and other collaborative activities.

This Website offers a variety of   discussion activities,   recommended options, and   other resources to help you explore some of these important and challenging aspects of class size:  student/faculty ratio;  faculty workload;  student workload; learning styles;  teaching styles;  technology options;  faculty governance;... 

There are many ways to structure a discussion about class size and the quality of learning/teaching in online and hybrid/blended courses.  There are almost as many different motivations and goals for addressing these issues as there are stakeholders in the results of the dialogue.  Some approaches are more likely to facilitate civil and constructive dialogue.  Others are more likely to bury opportunities for real solutions.

"Clothing the Emperor" approach to Dangerous Discussions issues: 
Replace incorrect, inflammatory, extreme statements/views with realistic, balanced, civil, and constructive conversation.

[1st Online Workshop Session February 8, 2006
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Click here, and see below, for more ways of asking/answering alternative questions about class size!
Help in finding solutions that are
Low-Threshold, Incremental, Pragmatic, Flexible, Collaborative, Reasonable, Respectful!  And see this table of options that summarizes these results and extends them to faculty/professional development programs!

We hope to help you minimize unnecessary acrimony and maximize constructive give and take - to help you eliminate the flames, reduce the heat, and illuminate the real solutions.

We begin with a list of alternative ways of asking the central questions

Please examine what we offer, adopt what you find useful, and let us know about improvements you recommend or additional requests. 
Click here to send email to gilbert@tltgroup.org.

Click here for other "Dangerous Discussions" topics/questions for faculty, administration, and staff
- (especially, about Teaching, Learning, and Technology)

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Discussion Activities

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Resources

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Discussion Activity
Alternate ways of asking questions about class size
- 6 Versions & 1 Comment

Which versions are more/less inflammatory? 
For whom?  Under what conditions?

Which versions are more conducive to constructive results? 
For whom?  Under what conditions?

  1. How can learning be improved in online and hybrid/blended courses without reducing student/faculty ratio or increasing the workload for teachers or students?  
    Under what conditions?

  2. In which courses and in which ways can information technology be used more effectively to increase the size of classes and reduce the number/duration of face-to-face meetings without reducing the quality of teaching and learning?  
    Without further overburdening faculty and academic support staff?  
    Without major external funding?  Without speculative restructuring?
    Without seeing the emperor's clothes!

  3. How, if at all, can technology be used to reduce operating costs without sacrificing educational quality or the life expectancy of faculty?

  4. How can large enrollment online classes be managed more effectively (e.g., 30-50 students in a doctoral level course)

  5. “I usually meet face-to-face with 10-20 students in the courses I teach at this college, and I really enjoy the lively – and often thoughtful - discussions. I know I’m lucky. I put my course syllabi on the Web, and often assign Web-based resources to my students. Are there really any ways of adding online interaction that would be any improvement?”

  6. How can we match conditions, goals, resources, and techniques for effective online teaching and learning with different sized classes?

  • Comment from Tom Marino, Temple Univ, 3/10/2005:
    “I had to chuckle when I saw your 4th version.  Right now we are teaching a completely online class to 120 students.  It turns out it is more work than in the past when it was face to face.  I guess I can’t imagine upscaling it without it taking an inordinate amount of time.  That is unless we start decreasing the faculty to student feedback.  Then we would not be able to call it education, just training.”

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Discussion Activity - Key Questions for Class Size
Click here for PDF version of Activity/Worksheet

  • What is the maximum number of students acceptable for your course(s)?

  • What factors, conditions, or resources most limit class size for your course(s)?

  • What factors, conditions, or resources would enable you to increase class size for your course(s)?

  • Who should be engaged in a constructive "Dangerous Discussions" about class size within your institution?

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Discussion Activity - Sample List of Factors, Resources, ... that Influence Making Class Size Larger (or Smaller)

Click here for PDF version of Worksheet to be used in Factor/Resource Discussion Activity

Factors/Resources
Click on each of the following for more explanation below

  • MISSION, GOALS, EXPECTATIONS
    Institutional Mission, Expectations, Goals (for Courses, Faculty, Students)
    (Course Purpose, Nature;  Consequences of Learning/Missing Material)

  • CONTENT

  • STRUCTURE, METHODOLOGY, MEDIA
    Institutional Policies (e.g., minimum attendance); Sampling, etc.

  • INSTITUTIONAL RESOURCES
    Institutional Resources;  Instructional Materials
    Support Services,  Infrastructure, ..Instructional Materials readily available from .... sources internal, external, professional organizations, publishers, colleagues;  .

  • FACULTY
    Individuals & Collaboration

    Includes different styles, needs, workload, capabilities, attitudes of faculty

  • LEARNERS
    Individuals & Cohorts [Click here for more about Learning/Teaching Cohorts]
    Includes different styles, needs, workload, capabilities, attitudes of learners
     

  • Other?

Which of these factors needs more explanation?  Which are most important to you? 
Which are most relevant at your institution?
 
What needs to be added to or removed from this list?

LEARNERS:  INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS, RESPONSIBILITIES, ROLES, COHORTS

  • Learner Responsibility (small group work; learning by teaching)
    Extent to which students can learn effectively by working independently or in small groups;  extent to which students can learn more deeply or broadly by teaching their peers in a course - especially within small groups...

  • “Student Development” [Training students in learning techniques they can apply in most courses... Meta-cognition, …]

  • Characteristics: of Individuals - Both Learners and Teachers
    Of individual learners; of particular group(s) of learners; .[possibly reflective of stereotypical attributes of group - e.g., comp. sci. majors as asocial non-verbal geeks, ...] vs. Ability to work independently - to enjoy and take advantage of flexible schedule & pace

  • Workload
    How will any changes in teaching/learning processes affect the learners' workloads?  How will they respond to increases or decreases in their workloads?

FACULTY:  INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS, RESPONSIBILITIES, ROLES, COLLABORATION

  • Over-Conscientious Faculty
    Faculty members who set standards too high for themselves and/or for their students;  e.g., expecting to interact individually with every student every day...

  • Under-Conscientious Faculty
    Faculty members who set standards too low for themselves and/or for their students;  e.g., not initiating enough interaction with individual students to avoid being surprised when someone drops out of the course or fails an important assignment when it is too late to catch up.

  • Characteristics: of Individuals - Both Learners and Teachers
    Of individual teachers;  of particular group(s) of teachers; .[possibly reflective of stereotypical attributes of group - e.g., comp. sci. faculty as asocial non-verbal geeks, ...] vs. Ability to work collaboratively - to enjoy and take advantage of teamwork in spite of reduce individual flexibility.

  • Workload
    How will any changes in teaching/learning processes affect the teachers' workloads?  How will they respond to increases or decreases in their workloads?

EXPECTATIONS, GOALS, KINDS OF EDUCATION

  • Expectations: Faculty, Students, Others?
    Expectations about frequency, quality of interactions with...? 
    Expectations based primarily on previous personal experience? 
    Expectations based primarily on the influence of others, media, etc.?
    Extent to which students' expectations about course structures, assignments, collaborative learning, etc. make it easy or difficult for a teacher to guide and modify the kinds of individual interaction required for course-related activities.
    Extent to which faculty members' expectations about student behavior, preferences, and capabilities limit choices about teaching/learning activities that require different kinds and amounts of individual interaction between students and faculty.

  • Access vs. Delivery vs. Engagement  (Training vs. Educating?)
    Relevance of each major kind of teaching/learning (providing access to information, delivering knowledge, and engaging people).  How well do different combinations of them fit with different teaching/learning situations?  For more on this,  click here.

  • Need to Build Trust
    To what extent is the success of an educational approach dependent on building trust among participants?

  • Demand for Course [specialized advanced vs. general education requirement; within small geographic area vs. worldwide]

SAMPLING

  • Sampling vs. Covering – Setting Reasonable Limits for Interaction in a Course
    Every teacher makes sampling decisions about almost every aspect of teaching and learning:   selecting a group of topics, a group of students' responses, some portions of students' work, some individual students, etc. to deal with as a meaningful representative of the full collection of such items or people.  For example, during a traditional classroom discussion, a teacher may invite only a few students to respond to a few questions about a reading assignment that was to be completed in preparation for the class.

    Traditionally this has applied primarily to choices about topics to be covered in assigned readings, discussions, laboratory work, and classroom presentations within a course.  However, educational conditions are changing so that teachers and learners have many more choices about what, how, and when to learn and to teach – and about what, how, and when to interact with each other.  The sampling decisions have become more important and more dangerous to leave to old habits and assumptions that may no longer apply.  For more on this, click here.

  • For an introduction to the broader concept of "incompleteness," click here.

STRUCTURE, METHODOLOGY, MEDIA

  • Media & Communications (text vs. voice; tools for courses; tools for students; tools for faculty)

  • Synchronous vs. Asynchronous

  • Assessment Methodology related to ... [e.g., courses that appropriately depend on quantitative assessment, feedback, right/wrong answers vs. courses that depend on more verbal responses, etc. ]

  • T/L Methodology related to Content [e.g., lab sciences require more/less...? courses that require expository writing...?]

CONTENT

  • Abstract vs. Concrete Courses

  • T/L Methodology related to Content [e.g., lab sciences require more/less...? courses that require expository writing...?]
     

OTHER

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Also, see queries developed about Education, Technology, and Change.  See:

<<http://www.tltgroup.org/gilbert/QuakerQueriesIWswg2-19-01.htm>>
 

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